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Post by oaky on December 1st 2016, 11:03 pm

when my generation's great contributions to science and technology eliminate scarcity im glad to know fd will be praising castro and marx instead of me and my peers for his prosperity
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Post by oaky on December 2nd 2016, 12:46 pm

Don Staloni wrote:
A legendary revolutionary and orator.
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Post by PURVEYOR OF RETRIBUTION on December 2nd 2016, 12:51 pm

"i don't have any time and i don't have the mental health to deal with my course load and a porky boss who's all 'if you don't come in for 1.8 hours right now at 3 am i'm going to have to fire you' i don't feel like serving up burgers for amerilards that probably slap their wall-e ass hands together whenever trump goes on air and says 'what little positive diplomatic relationship we had with cuba is going to be completely dissolved unless they become a democra- what's that eric? oh well in that case unless they become capitalist'"

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Post by toby on December 2nd 2016, 9:10 pm

you could've thrown this together in 10 seconds on ms paint and i'd still believe that some commieboo created this
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Post by PURVEYOR OF RETRIBUTION on December 2nd 2016, 9:15 pm

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Post by toby on December 2nd 2016, 9:16 pm

i didn't believe it was real at first
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Post by Zilchexo on December 6th 2016, 8:49 pm

Congo Jack wrote:workers own the means of production in capitalism. someone hand makes a product then sells it.
BOI no they don't bosses do
we get people who stop hand making their products in turn for training a bunch of people to make the products the way you would (or teaching them) who pays those workers for manufacturing a product he created. or, if you really hate humanity and the thought of paying humans, robots!!!

tf when you want to seize the means of production but have never produced anything in your life
B-O-I if you didn't have a hand in it you didn't produce it the 1,000,000th variant on the potato chip doesn't count especially when you paid an r&d department for that
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Post by Zilchexo on December 6th 2016, 8:51 pm

george lucas wrote:tbh if communism is workers owning the means of production that doesnt work in the world of the future where everything is made by robots lol
look up fully automated luxury communism
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Flamjimbo wrote:it's amazing how many times we've had this exact argument because you refuse to understand you don't know what you're talking about and do the slightest bit of research
it's amazing how many times we've had this exact argument because you refuse to understand that the people that you're arguing with are suddenly going to change your mind because you use the same unpersuasive arguments every single time
i'm not trying to persuade anyone i just want to demonstrate that i can defend myself in a debate setting
george lucas wrote:not every job requires you to come in but with your luck youd be a dishwasher at some shitty mcdonalds place or something because youre too nuts to get a job doing anything else
Thank,
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Post by Mac B on December 6th 2016, 8:57 pm

if i tell ol boy "here, I'm leaving you in charge of my still while I'm off running another still, here's what you gotta do and if you do it I'll give you 15% profit of the batch" and he tries to rake me out all the earnings that I procured I'll knock his damn teeth out

what people don't realize is when you work in something that manufactures a product, the equipment and resources you use to do so are not yours
if you want to go off and buy some of the equipment yourself to make your own product, by all means, thank capitalism that you can do it, but don't count my coconuts then say "Nuh uh! They're MINE! I counted them!" when I try to get them back from you
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Post by Mac B on December 6th 2016, 8:59 pm

fd wrote:automated luxury communism
that sounds absurd on it's own
wall-e amirite
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Post by Zilchexo on December 6th 2016, 9:30 pm

Congo Jack wrote:if i tell ol boy "here, I'm leaving you in charge of my still while I'm off running another still, here's what you gotta do and if you do it I'll give you 15% profit of the batch" and he tries to rake me out all the earnings that I procured I'll knock his damn teeth out

what people don't realize is when you work in something that manufactures a product, the equipment and resources you use to do so are not yours
if you want to go off and buy some of the equipment yourself to make your own product, by all means, thank capitalism that you can do it, but don't count my coconuts then say "Nuh uh! They're MINE! I counted them!" when I try to get them back from you
the difference is that in capitalism people are forced to agree to one of these contracts, supply and demand kicks in and so capitalists are more than free to shit all over their workers with little-no comeuppance, you can never work a day in your life and be worth billions. THAT'S why capitalism is bad

Congo Jack wrote:
fd wrote:automated luxury communism
that sounds absurd on it's own
wall-e amirite
not if you consider molecular manufacturing and rising productivity
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Post by Zilchexo on December 6th 2016, 9:33 pm

Congo Jack wrote:
fd wrote:lol nice reading comprehension
stop using that as a fallback when you know you're saying bullshit
no i'm serious you didn't understand what i was saying

fd wrote:foundationless blabbery on how i apparently dont know communism
cool have fun in the work camp\
proof of my point
fd wrote:fallback statement, you're not "forced" to work in a marxist-leninist vanguard state any more than you are in capitalism
its almost like you dont have a grasp of world history
you're forced to work in capitalism if you want to eat. that's the idea. that's. that's it.
fd wrote:lol define communism or socialism or literally anything you're talking about you don't fucking know what you're talking about
want a fedora to go with that? it'd fit your reddit page
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fd wrote:ou just think you do because all of your "reputable sources" have been fed the same faulty rhetoric
"everything youve been told is wrong!!"
if you live in america you have been fed 50+ years of fbi and cia propaganda including cointelpro
aside from the fact I haven't brought up any sources or used the term but since you so humbly asked my boys folks in europe can sure as hell tell you all about the glories of communism when it threatened their land,
*bolshevist collectivism/state capitalism (which lenin intentionally instated as a temporary necessity)
aside from the fact you think i'm "fed" a rhetoric like some kind of helpless animal because, I know flat well what communism is and why it's fuckin stupid.
which is why you can't define it
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Post by Mac B on December 6th 2016, 9:42 pm

fd wrote:you're forced to work in capitalism if you want to eat.
holy shit, man has to do something to survive! who would've fucking thought?!
fd wrote:fbi and cia propaganda
fbi and cia propaganda calm down the lizardmen have never contacted me
fd wrote:*bolshevist collectivism/state capitalism (which lenin intentionally instated as a temporary necessity)
if that's commie slang for direct influence in other nations and communism is a puppeted state such as the event that im referencing then i dont even have to argue
fd wrote:which is why you can't define it
epec meem
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Post by Zilchexo on December 6th 2016, 9:58 pm

Congo Jack wrote:
fd wrote:you're forced to work in capitalism if you want to eat.
holy shit, man has to do something to survive! who would've fucking thought?!
fd wrote:fbi and cia propaganda
fbi and cia propaganda calm down the lizardmen have never contacted me
fd wrote:*bolshevist collectivism/state capitalism (which lenin intentionally instated as a temporary necessity)
if that's commie slang for direct influence in other nations and communism is a puppeted state such as the event that im referencing then i dont even have to argue
fd wrote:which is why you can't define it
epec meem
the difference is that work conditions in capitalism are horrible
no bolshevist collectivism refers to the "we'll take your cows and give you milk" kind of stuff they did as well as central planning and management
you can't define communism i'm dead serious
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Post by Mac B on December 6th 2016, 10:07 pm

fd wrote:the difference is that work conditions in capitalism are horrible
im sure everyone in a gulag would agree!
fd wrote: "we'll take your cows and give you milk" kind of stuff they did as well as central planning and management
you're using pretty words to hide the shameful actions they did
you don't bust into someone's farm, say "Think I'm gonna use this how I see fit, who knows you might get some" and walk away scot free
fd wrote:you can't define communism i'm dead serious
you can't function in a practical communist environment i'm dead serious
see sonny there's a difference between cant and wont
just like how I can but wont repeat my love to the hanna barbera age of cartoons
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Post by toby on December 6th 2016, 10:39 pm

i haven't read the entirety of your refutation of capitalism yet but this bit always sticks out to me

Flamjimbo wrote:you can never work a day in your life and be worth billions. THAT'S why capitalism is bad
so is the only work that counts for work as you manual labor
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Post by toby on December 6th 2016, 10:42 pm

Flamjimbo wrote:
you're forced to work in capitalism if you want to eat. that's the idea. that's. that's it.
see i thought you had to work/contribute to society/acquire currency/etc to eat in EVERY human society
do you get food for doing nothing in a communist utopia
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Post by george lucas on December 6th 2016, 10:59 pm

Congo Jack wrote:
fd wrote:automated luxury communism
that sounds absurd on it's own
wall-e amirite
it sounds stupid because in communism personal possessions arent supposed to be a focus and "luxury communism" would mean everyone is vying to get more cool stuff while lounging around like in that one book from the 1930s

FOUND IT Brave New World
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Post by george lucas on December 6th 2016, 11:00 pm

our government isnt full blooded capitalist anyway it has social welfare programs even if shaky. though i hear social security is gonna die but i havent looked into why
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Post by george lucas on December 6th 2016, 11:02 pm

Flamjimbo wrote:the difference is that work conditions in capitalism are horrible
i dont think working in russian factories in the 50s were the greatest things since sliced bread i mean damn thats a massively broad statement and coming from a kid whos never worked a day in his life no less
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Post by george lucas on December 6th 2016, 11:04 pm

Congo Jack wrote:just like how I can but wont repeat my love to the hanna barbera age of cartoons
on that note id like to say that hanna barbera cartoons were fun but they treated their animators like shit and put out shit quality animation because of it. still fun
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Post by Mac B on December 7th 2016, 7:21 am

oh yeah, they were basically a fuckin animation factory when the late 70s n 80s came, they made cartoons for anyone with a paycheck, and given some other factors hindering animation in general in that time period, it really reflected but that's one of the reasons, ironically, I like their stuff, you get fucking casper and the space police, fonz and the happy days gang time traveling, and the template cartoon for superhero characters space ghost.
You could point out the downward curve in quality from the flintstones to the last breaths of the, idk gary Coleman and pacman show.
I don't doubt some shit went on up there though, hopefully most of em came out with success stories (Meth McFarlane for example, Andy Heyward and the man Frederator himself for a few more)
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