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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by Mac B on October 14th 2016, 9:33 pm

the usa helps your (assuming) homeland out and you wont honor them smh
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by Mac B on October 14th 2016, 9:48 pm

Flamdini wrote:that's only part of the reason let me delineate my entire argument

  1. it's a waste of time
  2. i don't want to swear allegiance to something that is immaterial and only exists as long as people act like it does especially when it's code for "i won't do anything the government doesn't like" especially something that doesn't necessarily have my interests in mind
  3. i feel no connection to american culture or the american nation itself
  4. i don't like the cold war origins of the popularization of the pledge of allegiance and the "under god" clause
  5. puerto rico couldn't fly its own flag for 4 straight years and doing it in certain ways can still be considered terrorism and that double standard needs to be arranged
  6. (also tl;dr of the above) i'll be much hastier to pray to the rag (whose flag code is violated constantly) if/when america gets its shit together and i feel like i can honestly endorse it

1. that people fought and died for so you could have the right to level it to that
2. not even the message lmao
3. he said on a community forum that celebrates both, likely with a weak grasp of "american culture"
4. a lot of people don't. i don't say under god because I believe the first amendment protects us from being theocratic but I still say the pledge
5. source?
6. "oh yeah sure ill come over to your team once it starts winning"
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by Mac B on October 14th 2016, 10:22 pm

1. americans arent the nazi regime you commie fuck, we actually fight for freedom and independence
2. "ill call his statement cute, that'll surely piss him off and not make me look like a red elitist" the pledge isnt about dropping your pants and bending over for uncle sam, it's about shaking hands with him. taking pride in your country, something i understand why you'd have a hard time doing.
3. it's to my understanding you've lived in america most of your life, what i'm seeing here is a common introvertial rejection of culture. a lot of americans dont see themselves as americans over this. im not knocking you for having a culture that isnt full american but its strange to live in a nation for so long and not merge with the culture at all
4. no shit the first amendment "protects" you from saying the pledge. thankfully because we are not a communist nation, there are no repercussions for not showing pride in your nation. it's a common debate topic and i'm a firm believer of do what the fuck you want, but ethically you /should/ stand for the pledge because it is a symbol and celebration of your rights as an american and an honor to those who fought for it.
5. Law 53 (the Gag Law) or La Ley de la Mordaza as it is known in Puerto Rico, was repealed in 1957
nice necro bump
6. don't act like the world's welcome mat will welcome someone in it only for the benefits. why do you think we're going to build a wall between us and mexico?
and certainly don't act like your country is holier than thou to the fairest nation on earth
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by Mac B on October 15th 2016, 6:55 am

Flamdini wrote:you actually believe this don't you thanks for missing the point though because my point was if you assume your cause is just and soldiers die for a good mission you'll be willing to do things that shouldn't be done in the name of your "just cause" you're basically begging your question here by presupposing that america has "just causes" when that's exactly what's being disputed one of the reasons i don't pledge is because i don't like america's ways of achieving its goals and obvious mixing of these goals with other pursuits like foreign relations and oil and you're going "how dare u do that for those reasons because (counterpoint to reason)"

it's not my country and they make non-citizens and non-residents do the pledge too you know the pledge was written for schools right you really think that's what they were concerned over when they started adopting the pledge is children not taking enough pride in their country

i understand american culture because i'm immersed in it not because i'm a member of it. if you dunked me into a tank of water for over a decade i'd get a pretty good feel for water and i'd get pretty wet myself but i'd still not be water. hot dogs and hamburgers aren't "mine" and christmas carols aren't "mine" because my mother raised me like a puerto rican and we only had those things outside the house

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony

thanks for having no idea of the difference between leninist democratic centralism and communism hint one is a policy doctrine and the other is an ideology and the utopian society it advocates

lol what rights 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th and 10th amendments and a princeton study called america an oligarchy

HAHA yeah dude you asked for evidence that flying the american flag was illegal for 9 years and i provided it

puerto rico has never been given the capacity to commit great crimes so i don't know what your point is unless you're saying puerto rico is being mene to the united states
ultimately at the heart of your state fetishist ideology is naivete. i will say that i admire american emphasis on Freedumbs but i've seen far too many americans unable to separate their form of government from their way of life or their actual form of government from how their government is supposed to work which is sad and i don't mean "Sad!" i mean actually sad because how it's supposed to work is you're supposed to keep a figurative loaded gun pointed at your government's head to ensure it does what it says it'll do and replace it/protest/whatever if it fails to. too much faith in it is asking to be bumfucked and by the time that happens you'll probably enjoy it

as an extratory note; those sand monkeys don't know how to use oil anyways. they probably think it's some evil devil fuel that's why they let us have it
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by salty on October 15th 2016, 11:14 am

Flamdini wrote:"let me just explain your own country to you"
said fd every time he talks about my dominant #1 superpower
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by salty on October 15th 2016, 11:17 am

i don't want to swear allegiance to something that is immaterial and only exists as long as people act like it does especially when it's code for "i won't do anything the government doesn't like" especially something that doesn't necessarily have my interests in mind

fd brings out the hardcore pseudophilosophy

its not enough for him to say 'i dont stand for/do the pledge' cuz thats fine he has the AMERICAN right to do that but he has to go ahead and try to tell us why hes right to not do it
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by salty on October 15th 2016, 11:18 am

Useless Puerto Rico!
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by spicy on October 15th 2016, 11:19 am

"my interests"
selfish thinking never leads to progress
typical communist
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by charles stiles on October 15th 2016, 11:34 am

fd no one's gonna read posts that are paragraphs long

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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by Rubber Band Man on October 15th 2016, 12:02 pm

i wonder what FD is going to do when puerto rico becomes a US state
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Post by Rubber Band Man on October 15th 2016, 12:10 pm

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Post by george lucas on October 15th 2016, 2:34 pm

im no puertot riccan but i wouldn't stand and do the pledge nowadays or since high school but we never did the pledge in high school anyway

i do stand for the national anthem though
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by Mac B on October 16th 2016, 1:08 am

fd wrote:the difference is that you couldn't find puerto rico on a map and i've lived here most of my life
what thats not true flade just posted it smh
then which is it. are you an expert on puerto rico or texas?
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by Mac B on October 16th 2016, 1:12 am

fd wrote:that's a theory, "america has bad foreign policy" is an opinion, "america has hypocritical foreign policy based on mistruths" is a fact
I'd say I hate to break it to ya sonny but that would be a lie, but that statement is in fact
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by salty on October 16th 2016, 1:20 am

fd being incorrect about what is and isnt a fact is a fact HE DABBIN
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by Tyson on October 16th 2016, 1:45 am

fd wrote:some shitposting about america
i dunno, all i do is stand up, listen to prayer, listen to national anthem, sit down. takes like 4 seconds. I do it without question because I am proud of my country, and i'd do it for america as well. If you hate america so much then move back to pakistan, when you're at someones house do you shit on their dietary choices, furnishings or lifestyle? No, you keep that shit to yourself.

filthy fucking criminal, you shouldn't be doing shit the government doesn't like in the first place. name 10 things the "government" doesn't want you to do that is legal.

you won't pledge allegiance to a flag because of some shit you made up in your head? are you stupid? why do you hate america so much? do you live in the hood? shitty living conditions? or are you scared of big brother?
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Re: sticky solution to porter ricer enomic crisis in anaphora fore ever

Post by cya on October 16th 2016, 10:41 am

Tyson wrote:
fd wrote:some shitposting about america
i dunno, all i do is stand up, listen to prayer, listen to national anthem, sit down. takes like 4 seconds. I do it without question because I am proud of my country, and i'd do it for america as well. If you hate america so much then move back to pakistan, when you're at someones house do you shit on their dietary choices, furnishings or lifestyle? No, you keep that shit to yourself.

filthy fucking criminal, you shouldn't be doing shit the government doesn't like in the first place. name 10 things the "government" doesn't want you to do that is legal.

you won't pledge allegiance to a flag because of some shit you made up in your head? are you stupid? why do you hate america so much? do you live in the hood? shitty living conditions? or are you scared of big brother?

you guys have prayer in your school

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