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Re: quantumbound general

Post by toby on September 8th 2016, 12:49 pm

tbh we could probably suggest some stuff if the plot that you gave us wasn't so vague
seriously what do you expect us to come up with from:
"suicidal guy doesn't commit suicide because of some quantum bs and drags his buddies with him just because and then there's dragons and an evil empire and people die"
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Re: quantumbound general

Post by Zilchexo on September 9th 2016, 6:28 am

regarding the "if the only goal of your title is to make people curious about the book" thing, i really don't know what else i'd use a title for, unless you mean a title that fits the work's subject matter. and there's just so much to cover in that regard i can only draw a blank.
samoyed wrote:tbh we could probably suggest some stuff if the plot that you gave us wasn't so vague
seriously what do you expect us to come up with from:
"suicidal guy doesn't commit suicide because of some quantum bs and drags his buddies with him just because and then there's dragons and an evil empire and people die"

start it at 9 seconds or some shit

anyway that wasn't really a "i need to do a book report due tomorrow and got 5 pages in" summary, more of a "hey what's that book you're carrying about?" summary

here goes:
the two aliums, the krominians, are part of a task force organized by a krominian who isn't even mentioned in the first book to destroy the empire before it destroys them. they travel to earth to recruit people into a subdivision of the task force that aims to battle the empire head on- earth because it is one of the only two planets that haven't had any successful contact with the empire and are advanced civilizations, and as you can guess much of the plot revolves around the other planet. (empire SOP is to invade as soon as successful contact is made, as they consider this only possible after the end of a civilization's "character-building" process in which they are made the best and most efficient versions of themselves) rufus, alex's friend, is fucking stacked like bruce lee, and the krominians happen to see him and attempt to recruit him, which he eventually agrees to, having nothing to lose. he tells them to expect two other people who also have nothing to lose and have certain skills, being alex and his sister red. alex and red can no longer afford to pay off their apartment because red got fired for being a bit pushy about the wage theft problem at her workplace and alex's publix job isn't enough, so alex decides suicide is better than homelessness (also his mom committed suicide not sure if i mentioned that). he's stopped by rufus, and rufus tells him about current events. they then meet up with the aliums, who give them the full if-you-back-out-after-what-we're-about-to-tell-you-we-will--have-to-kill-you briefing. they freak out and want to bail but eventually accept. the krominians use money stolen from bank accounts they decided wouldn't really miss the money to buy a yacht capable of sailing across the pacific to a non-specific "remote area", and alex, being the team's navigator, puts in some coordinates he remembers his mother putting on her suicide note, which turn out to be Xiao Lanyu (Lesser Orchid Island). after they've already decided that either the coordinates were wrong or remembered wrong or meaningless or something, alex falls into one of their secret exits, gets knocked out and wakes up in a room with Waifu Dragon, who is the daughter of the Head of Department of Surface, or General, and so the human was his business. Waifu Dragon puts off immediately telling her piece of shit dad alex has woken up to have a conversation with him on how he got inside the volcano, and then transmits what he told her to her piece of shit dad. they make him go back up and retrieve his companions and they're all given a proper, if a bit suspicious, welcoming. plot gets put on hold for a little bit here, maybe 100 pages, to show the reader how dragon society works and introduce them to the cast as well as to intellectually toot the book's own horn with stupid social analysis, and then suddenly a group of assassins targeting one of the krominians, kria, (i'm thinking maybe 20 or so i haven't worked this out all the way tbh) wormhole in and try to wreck shit which takes up another 100 pages or so. hajyo, zurroon's little sister and bekaard's daughter, is killed, and some stuff is pillaged, but ultimately the situation was handled about as well as it could be. the general tries to turn the dragons on the visitors which works to a small extent even after kria blames himself in front of an assembly both because it really was his fault and so nobody else gets blamed. the book ends with a newly expanded group standing in front of the wormhole that will lead them to the other planet.

also if anything seems unrealistic about anything i tell you guys chances are i've thought so as well and went and did research and verified it but that type of skepticism is still valuable, the book aims for "no suspension of disbelief required" totally-within-the-realm-of-real-not-hypothetical-science (and history, regarding dragons) after all, so please tell me
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Re: quantumbound general

Post by Zilchexo on September 9th 2016, 7:14 am

I've completed the mostly final draft of the first 30 pages! It's a good stopping point so I may put it on a ghostbin with a password since I plan on releasing free previews anyway. In fact, I will. The encryption key is fuknigga. If you want past this point contact me.
https://ghostbin.com/paste/359wqkfb
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Re: quantumbound general

Post by oaky on September 9th 2016, 7:15 am

quantumbound with contemporary connotations would either

-confuse the potential audience and make them walk away because they think it's gonna be some weird shit
-make them think it's some weird shit they're not interested in because 'quantum' was worn out years ago as a catch-all 'insert for science fiction' term

i think you should change it
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Re: quantumbound general

Post by oaky on September 9th 2016, 7:15 am

will take a look when i get the chance
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Re: quantumbound general

Post by Zilchexo on September 9th 2016, 7:20 am

oaky wrote:quantumbound with contemporary connotations would either

-confuse the potential audience and make them walk away because they think it's gonna be some weird shit
-make them think it's some weird shit they're not interested in because 'quantum' was worn out years ago as a catch-all 'insert for science fiction' term

i think you should change it
good point, i didn't think of that. for now it's "quantumbound: igneous" with the book cover putting the emphasis on "igneous", which is the best i can muster unless someone suggests something better.

giant homosexuality warning: there's a poem in there too, it's the first example of artifacts of dragon culture i want to sprinkle around the books. i think the meter makes it tolerable but if it's unreadable and cringy please tell me

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Re: quantumbound general

Post by Zilchexo on September 9th 2016, 9:48 am

room wrote:just dont make a pony dragon language and its all good
le but i didn't listen meme

too late fam. i don't think i'm going to make it a full conlang, just a convincing shell of a language like say klingon or elvish
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Re: quantumbound general

Post by toby on September 9th 2016, 12:25 pm

see guys this is what happens when you have any interaction with no dab
you start writing alternate universe fiction with alien languages
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Post by Zilchexo on September 9th 2016, 1:18 pm

samoyed wrote:see guys this is what happens when you have any interaction with no dab
you start writing alternate universe fiction with alien languages
if this is what happened to fd after no contact for a year ... imagine what could happen to YOU and YOUR child ... help PNAC and the Republican Party BAN this menace to society and its harmful effects by signing our petition ...

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Re: quantumbound general

Post by george lucas on September 9th 2016, 3:34 pm

igneous rock?
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Re: quantumbound general

Post by Mac B on September 9th 2016, 3:42 pm

igneous COKC
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Re: quantumbound general

Post by Mac B on September 9th 2016, 5:23 pm

room wrote:SYNOPISS:

its'   just fucking froge men smut

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Re: quantumbound general

Post by Zilchexo on September 9th 2016, 8:31 pm

keemstar wrote:igneous rock?
yes igneous as in igneous rock because they live in a volcano
room wrote:SYNOPISS:

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Re: quantumbound general

Post by Zilchexo on September 11th 2016, 6:27 pm

alright so if i do settle on another name i know it's going to have something to do with dragons, metaphorically possibly, probably how they've been hiding.

right now it's "quantumbound: igneous" vs. "quantumbound: the caged phoenix" vs. "quantumbound: a [song/tale/yodel] of fire and clay" vs. "quantumbound: [wildcard]". i'm still leaning toward igneous 2bh
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Post by toby on September 11th 2016, 6:43 pm

you know if you're solely going for the ya audience you could always go with some ironic bs like quantumbound: kingdom of the dragons or something
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Post by Mac B on September 11th 2016, 6:53 pm

kingdom of the niggabod false prince, breather of fire
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Re: quantumbound general

Post by Zilchexo on September 11th 2016, 7:44 pm

samoyed wrote:you know if you're solely going for the ya audience you could always go with some ironic bs like quantumbound: kingdom of the dragons or something
yeah no i don't want a best seller to my name named something like that and it will have a much harder time becoming a best seller with that name

that being said, i think i'm eliminating "a song of fire and clay" for being too derivative and luring in asoiaf fans who will almost certainly be disappointed at least slightly and replacing it with "quantumbound: bound bird", which makes me think that i can have each of the titles in the series refer to links or ties metaphorically, and i was already planning on naming the finale "quantumbound: fourteenfold freed"
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Post by Mac B on September 11th 2016, 8:04 pm

your book won't be a best seller dude lol
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Post by Tyson on September 11th 2016, 8:18 pm

Don't good stories make a best seller, not the name?
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Post by toby on September 11th 2016, 9:01 pm

see i was of the understanding that the story actually had to be decent to be a best seller, and while the title may have some impact on the reader, the story itself is more important
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Post by toby on September 11th 2016, 9:09 pm

and let's be honest, most ya book titles are pretty garbage anyway, so it's not like the title has to bee that good anyway
(see books like: the book thief, the harry potter series, the fault in our stars, etc)
(not saying that the books are bad but the titles are pretty eh)
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Post by oaky on September 11th 2016, 9:37 pm

okay fd i was gonna go ahead and critique the ghostbin leak of your novel but theres no fucking WORD WRAP what the fuck
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